Bin Laden says: War, No Peace, Without UNILETS
(Authored by John C. 'The Engineer' Turmel on November 4th, 2001)

JCT: The UNILETS interest-free time-based currency software mentioned as the future world money is based on the LETS anti-poverty currencies with thousands of branches in over 50 nations. See: http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/urlsnat.htm
    
November 2001 is offering some spectacular events and developments which will make a few good chapters in to add to my
"Adventures of The Engineer" book. The convergence of opportunities for world peace and prosperity is intriguing.
    
First, the G8, G20, IMF, World Bank are to be hosted in to my homebase of political, legal and tactical operations, Ottawa
on Nov 16-18.
    
Then let us realize that the end to Marijuana prohibition in Canada is being sought across the river between Nov 5-19 if the Quebec Superior Court can be persuaded that the new prohibition legislation not only does not permit freer access to sick people but in fact adds even more impediments making it, like the original legislation, therefore unconstitutional per the judgment of the Ontario Court of Appeal in Parker last year.
    
I took time away from my anti-poverty promotion and started legal battle for my second political program, abolition of prohibition of any vegetation, only 14 months ago. As per all my such battles, I've logged reports I'll someday use when I submit my Statement of Account for designing and installing the world a world-wide anti-poverty UNILETS.
    
This might sound nuts to a lot of people but LETS interest-free currencies were hailed as lifeboats in Australia and anti-poverty
systems in Britain where their set-up is included in their Local Agenda 21 program. Blair announced he wanted to get it to every municipality in Britain by 2001 and though he failed, Britain has more interest-free bank branches than any other country in the world. Last count was over 500. France only has 350, Germany 300, Australia 200, US 100, so no other country comes close to the support of LETS by government shown in Britain.
    
And LETS have been set up by the European Parliament so it's not as if the concept is new to the world's politicians. The only thing that is new is that it never dawned on them that one LETS could do the whole world all at the same time and all the benefits they have ascribed for supporting LETS interest-free currencies in their communities can be delivered to the whole world at the same time.
    
If the G8, G20, IMF, or World Bank, endorse Section C6 to governments in the United Nations Millennium Declaration, every
starving baby in the Third World has a guaranteed time-based credit line to start bidding on the wheat rotting in our fields.
    
Mr. Bin Laden has brought to the world the obsolete nature of nuclear aircraft carriers and missiles when faced with box-cutters and people with nothing to lose. Our whole society is vulnerable to Third World tactics and blowing up their homelands can only make it worse.
    
But Mr. Bin Laden has laid down his conditions for peace and it seems he won't stop war until the UNILETS is installed. I must admit that I was shocked when I read the next post yesterday because I thought that Bin Laden was a CIA plant to foment a rush to the safety of a police state. Most Americans seem ready to start wearing hand-cuffs to protect everyone against the possible terrorists among them. They seem to have already thrown away a history's worth of rights. They always do in times of "perceived" danger to "national security."
    
I thought he was a plant because if I was him while Dubya has so little evidence he can't produce "any at all," I've have surrendered before letting my hosts be bombed up.
    
I had decided not to comment on Bin Laden's almost knocking out the Federal Reserve because I didn't want to hurt the feelings of the people who empathize with the bystanders who were in the way. I was going to wait until Bush killed back about an equal number of innocent civilians. Considering that in past history, they end up killing 50 to 60 times more Foreigners than Americans, eg: Vietnam -3,000,000 US -50,000, so trying to stop the bloodletting before it's equal seemed futile. But once an equal number of innocent foreigners have been killed back, even the Americans might feel they've had enough of George's justice.
    
But the latest message from Mr. Bin Laden changes everything. There is a way out of war. There is a way to make peace with Bin Laden and all his followers.

Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 09:36:51 -0700
Subject: bin Laden's Declaration of War
From: Gary Hunt at the Outpost of Freedom
http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/OPF980830.htm

JCT: If you want to read the whole story of the Arabs complaining about how they got ripped off by the forces of Big Money, read it all but the important paragraphs are:

A MESSAGE FROM USAMA BIN MUHAMMAD BIN LADEN UNTO HIS MUSLIM BRETHREN ALL OVER THE WORLD GENERALLY AND IN THE ARAB PENINSULA SPECIFICALLY...

Praise be to Allah, we seek His help and ask for his pardon. we take refuge in Allah from our wrongs and bad deeds. Who ever has been guided by Allah will not be misled, and who ever has been misled, he will never be guided. I bear witness that there is no God except Allah, no associates with Him and I bear witness that Muhammad is His slave and messenger. Allah's blessing and salutations on His slave and messenger who said: "The people are close to an all encompassing punishment from Allah if they see the oppressor and fail to restrain him."

JCT: I'm not sure Mr. Bin Laden realizes that the problem is not the oppressor but the oppressor's software which we can beat by switching to our own.   

People are fully concerned about their every day livings; every body talks about the deterioration of the economy, inflation, ever increasing debts and jails full of prisoners. Government employees with limited income talk about debts of ten thousands and hundred thousands of Saudi Riyals. They complain that the value of the Riyal is greatly and continuously deteriorating among most of the main currencies. Great merchants and contractors speak about hundreds and thousands of million Riyals owed to them by the government. More than three hundred forty billions of Riyal owed by the government to the people in addition to the daily accumulated interest, let alone the foreign debt. People wonder whether we are the largest oil exporting
country! They even believe that this situation is a curse put on them by Allah for not objecting to the oppressive and illegitimate
behaviour and measures of the ruling regime.

JCT: Gee, sounds like Canada too!

Through its course of actions the regime has torn off its legitimacy:

JCT: Believe me, most Canadians feel that way about our governments too.

(2) The situation of the law within the country and the arbitrary declaration of what is Halal and Haram (lawful and unlawful)
regardless of the Shari'ah as instituted by Allah;

JCT: Same in Canada. The Prime Minister's generation of alcoholic Members of Parliament have arbitrarily declared that alcohol, tobacco are Halal while cannabis is Haram regardless of the scientific proof otherwise seen as evidence by all but the alcoholics in power. That's why my second political platform after abolishing usury is abolishing prohibition.

(3) The state of the press and the media which became a tool of truth-hiding and misinformation; the media carried out the plan of the enemy of idolising cult of certain personalities and spreading scandals among the believers to repel the people away from their religion,

JCT: Boy, does that sound like our media too.

(4) Abuse and confiscation of human rights;

JCT: This will especially be shown when we finally compel the witnesses from Health Canada to divulge how many people died while waiting to have their doctor's prescription filled. Making people die is considered a violation of rights in Canada though rarely enforced. 

(5) The financial and the economical situation of the country and the frightening future in the view of the enormous amount of debts and interest owed by the government;...while imposing more custom duties and taxes on the nation.     

JCT: So, does he think Muslims are in debt slavery alone? Christian whose good book also condemn interest are enslaved too, Jews whose good book also condemn interest are enslaved too, Bhuddists etc. There are only two classes on earth, the loansharks who get something for nothing and the slaves who get nothing for something.

(6) The miserable situation of the social services and infrastructure especially the water service and supply, the basic requirement of life.

JCT: Hey, Ontario has a Premier who didn't think laying off all the water inspectors might cause some people to die which it did. Looking through financial glasses, it never occurred to him that budget cuts could kill. He's retiring but you can bet the next guy will be another financial retard cutting the life out of Ontario's social services too.

(7) The state of the ill-trained and ill-prepared army and the impotence of its commander in chief despite the incredible amount of money that has been spent on the army.

JCT: Actually, I'm not too worried about an army once there is financial and economic peace and prosperous trade with the UNILETS interest-free alternative anti-poverty time-based currency.

(8) Shari'a law was suspended and man made law was used instead.

JCT: I've often called it Natural Law vs Law of Man. Trying to pay 11 when they only printed 10 is a violation of Natural Law but the Human Law of the Interest Act demands it and you'll lose your house for promising to do something impossible.
    
Of course, if you have neighbour and can get some of his principal loan in the mort-gage death-gamble, then you can pay your
interest and he will suffer foreclosure. But if you're alone as a person on your island, there is no escape but revolution.

If there are more than one duty to be carried out, then the most important one should receive priority. Clearly after Belief (Imaan) there is no more important duty than pushing the American enemy out of the holy land...

JCT: No, the greater duty is ending the poverty that makes the American an enemy in the Holy Land. Don't fight their financial
warship, jump into your own financial LETS life-boat.

If it is not possible to push back the enemy except by the collective movement of the Muslim people, then there is a duty on the Muslims to ignore the minor differences among themselves; the ill effect of ignoring these differences, at a given period of time, is much less than the ill effect of the occupation of the Muslims' land by the main Kufr.

JCT: Again, tbe goal should be to push back the old enemy but to attract the new friend.

If it is not possible to fight except with the help of non righteous military personnel and commanders, then there are two possibilities: either fighting will be ignored and the others, who are the great danger to this life and religion, will take control; or to fight with the help of non righteous rulers and therefore repelling the greatest of the two dangers and implementing most, though not all, of the Islamic laws. The latter option is the right duty to be carried out in these circumstances and in many other similar situation....

JCT: Of course, Mr. Bin Laden may not realize how close the world is to an interest banking system so he's just doing the same thing as the young kids in the rich countries, getting ready for armed resistance, which is just what the guys with the big guns want. 

Man fabricated laws were put forward permitting what has been forbidden by Allah such as usury (Riba) and other matters.

JCT: Okay. I challenged the Interest Act umpteen times in the courts including 6 times in the Supreme Court of Canada arguing that taking life-support tickets from the poor to give to the rich who don't need it and can only hoard more is the genocide of the poor. Those cases received national publicity in the early 1980s as the only genocide indictments against the banks for usury in history. I still stand on the validity of the indictments read at: See: http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/scc3.htm

Banks dealing in usury are competing, for lands, with the two Holy Places and declaring war against Allah by disobeying His... Be careful of your duty to Allah and relinquish what remains (due) from usury, if you are believers. But if you do (it) not, then be appraised of WAR from Allah and His Apostle} (Baqarah; 2:278279).

JCT: From http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/pombible.htm comes:

This is for the "Muslim" who deals in usury (believing that it is a sin), what is it then to the person who make himself a partner and equal to Allah, legalising (usury and other sins) what has been forbidden by Allah....

JCT: Okay, so Mr. Bin Laden wants an interest-free banking system before he'll call off the box-cutter brigade. Sounds fair to me. And if he's willing to forgive the International Bankers who cause 100,000 people to die of poverty every day, they might forgive Mr. Bin Laden if he did cause an extra 5% to exit Earthly Paradise early on that day.

Under such circumstances, to push the enemy the greatest Kufr out of the country is a prime duty. No other duty after Belief is more important than the duty of jihad.

JCT: I have to disagree. They have bigger guns. Their financial-military-industrial complex is looking for a military response, not a financial one. Why represent our collateral wealth with their tokens for a fee when we can represent our collateral wealth with our tokens for free? There's no reason to fight to fix their system if we can just jump-start our own. LETS is a "do-it-yourself" Halal money system and nothing no amount of military preparation can bring world peace faster than UNILETS software being installed world-wide all at once.

Utmost effort should be made to prepare and instigate the Ummah against the enemy, the AmericanIsraeli alliance occupying the country of the two Holy Places and the route of the Apostle (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him) to the Furthest Mosque (AlAqsa Mosque).

JCT: The enemy is not the occupier of your country, it is the owners. The consortium of banks that own your national debt and
control your citizens through the legislated permission to exact usury.
    
Mr. Bin Laden spends a lot of time talking about how to resist their military force and given he still thinks peace will need a war
first and is being actively shot at, it's understandable. I just wonder what he's going to say when he finds out there's a proposal on the United Nations Millennium Declaration to set up a world-wide anti-poverty UNILETS. Is there anything else that he needs to call off the rebellion of those who have nothing to lose when they get their interest-free credit cards and have a peaceful paradise on Eden to lose?

The money you pay to buy American goods will be transformed into bullets and used against our brothers in Palestine and tomorrow (future) against our sons in the land of the two Holy places. By buying these goods we are strengthening their economy while our dispossession and poverty increases.

JCT: Good point. Every bit of trade you do not do in your own LETS lifeboat will cost you extra interest on their ship. Of course, he doesn't have an interest-free lifeboat set up yet so his choices are more restricted.
    
For a few paragraphs, he taunts the US for the futility of trying to fight people with nothing to lose in Beirut, Somalia.

Terrorising you, while you are carrying arms on our land, is a legitimate and morally demanded duty. It is a legitimate right well
known to all humans and other creatures. Your example and our example is like a snake which entered into a house of a man and got killed by him. The coward is the one who lets you walk, while carrying arms, freely on his land and provides you with peace and security.

JCT: Ouch. No wonder they want to censor him? He might be real.

Those youths are different from your soldiers. Your problem will be how to convince your troops to fight, while our problem will be how to restrain our youths to wait for their turn in fighting and in operations. These youths are commendation and praiseworthy.

JCT: Ouch. That rings true. Kids with daddy's credit card living near a mall have less incentive to risk dying than these kids won don't even have a mall. Then again, the video generation were weaned on zapping enemies from afar.

More than 600,000 Iraqi children have died due to lack of food and medicine and as a result of the unjustifiable aggression (sanction) imposed on Iraq and its nation. The children of Iraq are our children. You, the USA, together with the Saudi regime are responsible for the shedding of the blood of these innocent children. Due to all of that, what ever treaty you have with our country is now null and void.

JCT: Ouch. No defence. George Bush II is going to have to score a lot of Afghan dead babies to catch up with dad George Bush I's record in Iraq. But what's most fascinating of all is that 90% of Americans don't know it. How's that for real media control in a "free society." 90% of Americans ask "why?" and have settled for no answer.

And our last supplication is: All praise is due to Allah .

Usamah bin Muhammad bin Laden
Friday, 9/4/1417 A.H (23/8/1996 CE) Hindukush Mountains, Khurasan,
Afghanistan. Entire text of Declaration of War

JCT: Wow. Not what I expected. As to the possibility of Osamah forgiving the usurers and the usurers forgiving Osamah, again, from http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/pombible.htm comes:

JCT:  As the world's first World Bank-IMF protestor, first arrest detailed in the Toronto Star in 1982, http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel/imf82.htm I am inviting the protestors to come if they come to promote the UNILETS solution with me on November 16th, 17th and 18th, 2001 in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. But I don't want them protesting with me if they have no solution and want only to obstruct.

So let's hope that I somehow manage to score a judicial end to marijuana prohibition just in time to gain the notoriety I'll need to make an impact on the G20 meetings where I might be only only guy picketing their million-dollar fence or with the promoters rather than protestors who know about the UNILETS world-wide anti-poverty system.
    
If you have any doubt about the UNILETS anti-poverty system, just do an search with any search engine for key words "engineer, anti-poverty, UNILETS," and you'll come up with "John C. The Engineer Turmel"
    
So I'm not sure if the world owners are ready to let the world be saved from ecological catastrophe by allowing us to side-step
financial catastrophe first. I can only say that like Bin Laden's army, I hate the same oppressor machine, but I don't hate the drivers.
    
Anyway, let's hope George Jr. is quick at evening out the carnage by killing his required quota of innocent civilians to then give peace a chance.
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John C. "The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel, Author of the UNILETS
interest-free time-based currency United Nations C6 recommendation to
Governments in the  http://www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm    
http://www.cyberclass.net/turmel / http://www.medpot.net 613.632.2334