From: Ottawa Citizen
Date: Oct 19 2002
By: Shannon Kari
Subject: Medical marijuana regulations must be tough:
SK (Shannon Kari's story) JCT (John C. Turmel's comments)
SK: TORONTO - Strict regulations are required for the distribution of
marijuana for medical uses or virtually anyone could try to claim an exemption
to smoke the substance, the federal government argued yesterday.
JCT: It just seems to be reported good for too many things so that they
just can't allow it for so many.
SK: "Every 12-year-old, every drug addict, every recreational user,"
would say they needed marijuana for medical reasons, without these regulations,
Justice Department lawyer Harvey Frankel said in Ontario Superior Court.
JCT: No they wouldn't. Only everyone with a doctor's prescription would.
No one ever argued that those silly extremes, no one at all! That's the problem
when the judge hasn't read the material when they make their presentations. He
can't catch them in out-and-out lies that can't be backed up.
SK: Eight people have launched a constitutional challenge to the federal
government's Marijuana Medical Access Regulations, which took effect July 31
2001. The federal government was forced to devise new regulations for people
with medical exemptions to use marijuana, after the Ontario Court of Appeal
ruled the previous guidelines were unconstitutional.
JCT: Wrong. There were no previous guidelines. There was only the
unconstitutional absolute discretion of the Minister and the unconstitutional
violation of Parker's right to life threatened by the POT PROHIBITION laws in
the CDSA. But the issues are clearly misrepresented by the Citizen's reporter.
SK: Lawyers for the eight applicants argued last month that the new
regulations are "so cumbersome and obstacle-laden that they are effectively
beyond the reach of seriously-ill Canadians." The new rules include a
requirement that two medical specialists give approval for certain types of
patients seeking an exemption to use marijuana. There are also restrictions on
anyone with a licence to grow marijuana for medical use, including the right of
a Health Canada inspector to search a dwelling without a warrant. The
applicants, most of whom are people with chronic illnesses, are asking Judge
Sidney Lederman to find that the regulations violate the fundamental justice
provisions of the Charter of Rights.
JCT: Yes, these are challenging the POT PERMISSION laws.
SK: If the regulations are not eased to allow people to obtain marijuana
privately, they are asking Judge Lederman to order the government to distribute
some of the 200 Kilograms that has been harvested so far under federal license
in Manitoba. "The requirements are reasonable," insisted Mr. Frankel, as three
Justice Department lawyers outlined the federal government's response in court.
"Marijuana is illegal. That is the starting point," he added.
JCT: To defeat Alan Young who isn't really challenging that marijuana is
illegal, only the permit system is illegal, but he can't say that to me. I can
answer, "So what? That's what we're discussing changing."
SK: Judge Lederman asked if the federal government was "reluctantly
pulled into this" by the Ontario Court of Appeal ruling and whether the new
regulations are a "holding of the nose situation." Mr. Frankel rejected that
suggestion and said "there's no limit" to what might happen if the courts tell
government what they must do, such as produce marijuana, as opposed to what they
may not do. "Does that mean a court can order a government to carry out the
promises it makes in a throne speech?" asked Mr. Frankel.
JCT: I enjoyed the part where Mr. Frankel said the government never had
to keep its promises and could always change it's mind once it had more fully
assessed the results of their promises.
SK: The consumption of marijuana for medical purposes was described as
"controversial therapy," by Mr. Frankel and he suggested that "if it did not
have such pleasant side effects, it might not be used as much."
JCT: His own preference is for gut-tearing pharmaceuticals.
SK: Judge Lederman reserved his decision after arguments from both sides
ended late yesterday afternoon.
JCT: At least she stayed around to hear presentations by me and Terry
even if she didn't mention's Terry's round of applause for his demand that the
POT PROHIBITION law be declared "of no force and effect" for having failed to
provide him with access.
Yesterday's CP report that mentioned Parker but not his speech was by JAMES
MCCARTEN -- Canadian Press. All the
others didn't even mention Terry at all though.
So that's the media's whole spin on what went on. Nowhere near passing on the
import of what is being demanded in
writing, no matter what was said. Right?
If you go back and read the arguments that have been published, that is what the
appeal courts are going to see, nothing else but that and the decision! No
matter what the media reported or who doesn't know the truth.
Remember that the true situation will always be crystallized in the appeal when
I've ditched slow-moving Alan to get it
moving up to the top.
Imagine, no one mentioned the "fumble in the end-zone" "no-time-to-fix"
possibility! Ah, to have known the true stakes
of what was going on for the whole of humanity rather while the booboisie
believe the "going-after-the-200-keys" was what it was all about, it is exactly
the feeling I get when I fight to abolish the usury death-gamble knowing so few
appreciate the prize that getting a judgment ordering the banks' programming
upgraded to LETS would win.
I get the very same thrill every time I ask a court of competent jurisdiction to
abolish the genocide of prohibition that I got the hundreds of times I asked
courts of competent jurisdiction to tame the banks killers computers with the
upgraded no-positive-feedback LETS Model.
The end of death-gamble and death-prohibition with victory in abolition of
either genocide. The thrill of winning souls
who had been slated and thought they were doomed.
Ending any kind of genocide is a big thrill. To get to be instrumental in ending
the two biggest is exquisite fun. And I hope the fans of combat engineering are
enjoying knowing how close we are to a new kind of Paradise on Earth once debts
don't grow no more and hemp does everywhere.
John C. "The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel, Author of the UNILETS
interest-free time-based currency United Nations C6 recommendation toGovernments
in the
www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm &
www.cyberclass.net/turmel /
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