The Medical Marijuana Debate

Readers are invited to read the John Turmel's comment and the Ottawa Citizen's report about Friday's (October 18th, 2002) Ontario Superior Court Happenings re: Medical Marijuana in Toronto, Ontario, Canada ... www.cyberclass.net/medicalmarijuana.htm

Here's another report from 'sonnyboy.'

From: sonnyboy (enthusiast)
Date: 10/19/02 01:36 AM
Subject: Re: Charter of Rights Doesn't Equal Med-pot ...

Justice Department lawyer Harvey Frankel really missed the mark today (Friday, October 18th, 2002) in the Ontario Superior Court in Toronto, Ontario, Canada

So much so that he torpedoed his case.

He came out attacking the individual applicants for some strange reason. He then argued some 3yr old 'Wakeford' Superior Court appeal arguments that were misdirecting and had little bearing on this hearing. He tried to tell the judge that even though Health Canada had at one point said they intended to supply exemptees a source (under Alan Rock) they, the government, have all the right in the world to change their minds, as long as HC hadn't actually "started" the process of supplying anyone. No explanations should be necessary, he said, other than it's not Health Canada's duty to supply marijuana and that the Charter does not grant anyone the right to have medical marijuana, or CracK, or whatever. What a MORON!!

Frankel then stated that even if HC were to supply the existing exemptees that PPS would be out of supply immediately and they could never keep up. Alan had some more realistic math in his closing to explain to the judge that this was a lie, and just how easy it would actually be to supply existing exemptees, for the time being at any rate, under the existing PPS contract. He asked the judge to order HC to finally designate PPS as a licensed distributor and to set up a system for delivery through the physician, or whatever.

Alan Young stated to me after that they couldn't have come off like a bigger boneheads if they tried. The judge was already leaning our way from his behind the scenes involvement/discussions over the Wakeford hearings 3 years prior. He seemed to be altogether unimpressed by the crowns arguments.

He certainly had no time or patience for Turmel. After the Lawyers finished their closing remarks Turmel tried to get up and sell the judge on his `genocide theory' again, and his mathematical probabilities of gambling, precisely applied to prove how Health Canada has murdered "x" number of epileptics over said period of time. He had gone to the trouble to create an armful of colorful charts and `death' grafts, and 8 x 10 colour glosssy's, none of which the judge would let him speak of or display. (I thought I was at the Alice's Restaurant Massacre ;)

As he had nothing pertinent to the crowns summations to question or refute, he was told, repeatedly, to "stifle" As he finally sat down John threatened Justice Sidney Lederman with the blood of the dead epileptics to come and that all will be disclosed at his Med-pot website for the world to see forever.

Justice Sydney Lederman thanked all parties and stated he'd render a decision as quickly as possible.
sonnyboy:)-~ "Weed My Lips"


JCT: Just when you think a guy's all wrong, he gets something all right. I'm speechless.

The only problem was that I was in full-RAM mode, high-adrenaline, all-or-nothing, gear with no RAM available at all for DOS commands. I hardly remember what I said. Only that I had to keep sticking it to him with the best shot I could muster and no thought to consequences or the recording of the event. All-RAM on action stations, no RAM on recording. When Captain Kirk ordered "full power to shields," Spock never forgot to turn the cameras off."

So I'm grateful for an honest report of what was probably the most intense confrontation of my life. Three times I stuck it to him where a hot-headed judge would have made me the top story on the evening news and he took it.

And I happened to have brought along one joint in my pocket as a prop to produce and demand of him:

"Here is my protection against epileptic seizures, where's yours? Here is my protection against Multiple Sclerosis, where is yours? Here's my protection against anorexia, where is yours? That's why I'm the world's top winner and won't fight you trying to take it away.

Sure, I had a whole theatrical performance that was going to convince him that it was no idle boast about Justice Estey
complimenting me on my "eloquence and articulate presentation." After 54 elections, you'd think I'd have learned a few things about spell-binding an audience. Why do you think people can sit and listen for four hours, because I have a boring delivery?

Boy, I had even brought a marijuana tree from the Dianne Bruce bust that the cops had left behind and which she'd given me when we'd gone to try to get her released in Cobourg provincial court way back when.

Remember, denying us the tree's economic and ecological potential is also a threat to my section right to life. Making us use toilet paper from trees that had to be broken down with cancer-causing dioxin when we could have no-dioxin toilet paper... The judge cut me off... This will be in the report...

And I was going to ask him to not only consider in his deliberations of how prohibition affects the Applicants with only pharmaceuticals to rely on in Canada but also how prohibition affects people in the Third World who do not have any medicine to buy and the free good stuff is outlawed by UN treaties enforced by their dictators. 

So yes, I didn't have the chance to do the 20 minute presentation I had prepared for. But included some math, some poetry, and of course, all kinds of props to make it a show that no one would have ever forgotten.

And Justice Lederman gave me no chance to cinch my genocide case. Of course, maybe he was hungry.

But I've never had my heart in my throat as I kept smashing the limits of his patience knowing there was nothing he could do and with every opening he left me, I capitalized and pounded him.

And you know there's only one way I could have done that. As The Professor versus The Gilligan.

I've never heard of the Alice's Restaurant Massacre but I can only guess that Steve was stunned as I was when I got to walk out of there surrounded by security but with no manacles on.

Luckily, there were so many people there that what I don't remember I got away with saying will someday be written down. Steve's is the first contribution.

I only know I wasn't leaving that courtroom without having putting up a fight that 2000 doomed epileptics a day would have expected of their life-boat engineer. It still wasn't enough to make the news. But it will make a great book someday.

As of Sunday, 4000 extra future epileptics will die who would not have died had Justice Lederman ended the genocide on Friday October 18 2002. 6,000 by tomorrow Monday. Hope he doesn't take too long figuring out the math. Here's the short verse titled EQUATION OF RESPONSIBILITY from www.cyberclass.net/turmel/pombank.htm

EQUATION OF RESPONSIBILITY
I pointed out they had the might to instantaneously,
Effect repair on our industrial capacity.
It's just like a conveyer belt with people in a line,
Who fall into abyss of Luciferian design.

If you could press a button and cut power to the beast,
The belt would have momentum but you'd lose the very least.
With the production maximized of butter, not of guns,
We still could not get there in time for all the weakest ones.

So there would be a finite loss of souls until the day,
When all may access credit and for life support may pay.
But if you'd waited for a while before you used your might,
You'd lose some extra souls for failing to so expedite.

And if you had refused to press the button to this day,
It would, on you, the blame for every fallen soul we'd lay.
With simple mathematics we can count the number who,
Have perished by inaction of the men with power few.

The number of souls perishing, all due to the delay,
Is equal to the number who do perish on that day.
With 40,000 children dying every single day,
Responsibility belongs to those who had the say.

Since all the judges had the power to compel the banks,
To fix the killer program so they don't deserve our thanks.
The number they must answer for which day to day does climb,
Is equal to the number who have perished since that time.

Each motion was a shot on goal, a chance to fix the flaw,
I took as many as I could but interest is law.

JCT: For any medpot story, I could write:
"I took as many as I could but prohibition's law."

Six times I went right to the top and all to no avail,
Since they found it too hard to grasp, the motions all did fail.

The judges all ruled that they failed to see what they could do,
They could not change the software to the service charges few.

Anyway, yes, I did want to show the judge the death curve
from www.cyberclass.net/turmel/bankmath.htm

EQUATION OF RESPONSIBILITY:
This is the argument I offered the Supreme Court of Canada in 1982 about the UNICEF 1981 estimate of starving children: 46,000/day.
 
Fig.11<http://cyberclass.net/turmel/death.jpg>

Unfortunately, only the software solution can be implemented now. Being generous in assuming that the rate of children perishing due to starvation on the planet will remain constant given the recent flurry of foreclosures on farm production, Fig. 11 shows the death curve. Since this software change in the computer's programming is quite instantaneous, if it were to be ordered at time t(now) and the bank`s computers immediately restricted to a pure service charge, all those industries that have recently died will be resurrected by an infusion of interest-free credit that will allow them to start rehiring as fast as they start writing new paychecks that need only be exchanged for work as collateral.

This will generate the greatest industrial boom imaginable. The increase in production would cause the slope of the death curve to change downwards until the eventual eradication of starvation due to the maximization of our industrial capacity. Area X under the death curve represents the number who will perish even if we flip the economic engine to full power at time t(now) because we won't be able to get to them in time. Delaying the switch to full power till time t(soon) delays the fall of the curve causing the area under it to increase by a statistically measurable amount K. Fortunately, the curve must come down at time t(finally) when the hardware solution is finally implemented by cashless money transfers. The hardware solution nullifies the gage (gamble) portion of the mortgage death-gamble in making the communications so good as to guarantee sure gambles!

Today entrepreneurs gamble on their wares being sold and the weakest are put out of production. Inflation through confiscation now occurs. This cannot occur in the electronic medium available in our near future. When communications become that fast, the slope of the death curve will change downward until the certain elimination of starvation, since food production will become a sure thing. The total area under the curve represents the maximum number of souls who will perish even if the software solution is never implemented. Though the curve must eventually come down by the electronic revolution, hastening the change of slope to time t(now) causes the area under the curve to decrease saving a statistically measurable slab of humanity A. For
anyone with the power to hasten or delay the software solution, realize upon reading this that this is your Judgment Day in that there is now a slab out there with your name on it that is growing and whether it is a death(K) or a life(A) slab depends purely on your decision right now.

Fig.11<http://cyberclass.net/turmel/deathb.jpg>

DEATH RATE VS TIME PARALLELOGRAM
It can easily be shown by the parallelogram theorem that the area in the K slab of the Keepers of the Interest Act is equal to the area covered during the delay. So, the K slab representing the number of souls to be lost due to the extra delay is equal to the number of souls who perish during the delay. Using the UNICEF estimate of the number of children who perished in the global village in 1981, 17,000,000, we can now accurately scale the death curve to get a good idea of the stakes we are gambling. The daily death rate of children in 1981 was therefore 46,000 per day.
 
The area between the date of the Court of Appeal hearing on March 16, 1982, and the date of this hearing on June 21, 1982, represents the number of children who will perish as a direct result of the Court's failure to comprehend the seriousness of the matter. The number who will perish as a result of their 97 day delay is equal to the number who perished during the delay. 46,000 dead children per day times 97 days equals 4,462,000 children who will not live who should have. Nothing can be done to undo that fact though the magnitude of their error can be held to a minimum by the immediate solution.

It was to stress the importance of hastening the software solution by even one day that I sought an Order of Mandamus that the Crown enforce the Criminal Code Sections against Gerald Bouey one day before this appeal was to be heard on the morrow in full court. On Mar 15, Justice Blair had wanted to put off his decision until the ruling on the morrow of the court in the Mar 16 hearing but the Crown objected. I explained that given the money system is now 90% electronic and vulnerable at its central computer to instantaneous correction, I likened our problem to that of the astronaut attempting to pull the plug on the killer computer in the movie "2001 A SPACE ODYSSEY." I stated "Here we sit in front of the killer computer's plug. I'm a scientist and I say pull the plug and our mortgage death- gamble will be over."

It is simple to prove that since the Canadian banking system is international, if and when it changes to a pure service charge, the usury banking system will collapse globally. It was to try and save one day's worth of children, 46,000 souls, that I asked for the electronic solution one day earlier. Justice Blair decided that he would not extend time on the matter and dismissed the motion without costs.

Nevertheless, anyone standing in the way of the quickest implementation of Global LETS has a K-slab growing from the moment they realize that LETS funding is the solution to the extinction going on around us. I hope this analysis has helped clear up many of the formerly misrepresented and misunderstood aspects of the usury banking system as well as explain why usury has been condemned throughout history as the greatest crime against humanity. It's the only thing standing between mankind and abundant salvation.

JCT: And then I had my best explanation of his responsibility for those extra people who would have been left alive had the genocide of prohibition been ended at his discretion sooner from one of the documents under my Crucial Information Section at my home page happens to be a poem on judges ordering banks' computers be reprogrammed to operate on a pure service charge like LETS software does with the interest charge abolished like LETS software does. And world-wide like UNILETS software does.

JCT: So go see what I had to let him know if I was to satisfy my duty the helpless masses being denied the best free medicine so other less helpless masses can be made to buy pharmaceuticals medications.

It's unfortunate, but the total magnitude of the genocide of prohibition was not allowed to get out but I leave it to you to consider that not only are the epileptic deaths for Canada extrapolated 200 times for the world, so are the deaths for all other cannabis-aided ailments. Add in the loss of the life-support value of the tree and the helpless nature of the majority and I have no doubt that the losses due to the delay in abolishing hemp prohibition are not just a mere 2000 epileptic a day but a much larger portion of the 100,000 person per day who die of preventable poverty-related diseases.

In 1981, Justices Laskin, Dickson and Lamer were all told that they'd be responsible for 46,000 dead babies per day, 17 million dead babies a year if they delayed the LETS interest-free credit cards for starving babies solution and now, 23 years later, that almost 400 million dead babies' souls who didn't get their ride on Earthly Paradise waiting on the other side to kick some ass of the guys who didn't turn off the conveyer belt of death when they could have.

So the numbers Lederman is facing are pretty horrendous if he doesn't obey the life-support engineer fast. The longer the judge fails to obey the directive of the life-support engineer, the greater the gauntlet of souls waiting to kick his ass on the other side.

Anyway. Now that I start to get my breath back, I do remember that it came down a confrontation between the referee and The Engineer. I did my duty. I tried my best for those who are denied God's Great Gift.


John C. "The Banking Systems Engineer" Turmel, Author of the UNILETS interest-free time-based currency United Nations C6 recommendation to Governments in the www.un.org/millennium/declaration.htm & www.cyberclass.net/turmel / www.medpot.net 613.632.2334